1 00:00:00,093 --> 00:00:09,876 We've seen photos and videos of UFOs, but now we may even have more tangible evidence 2 00:00:09,876 --> 00:00:10,876 that they're here. 3 00:00:10,876 --> 00:00:13,817 There's this thing you hear all the time that there is no evidence. 4 00:00:13,817 --> 00:00:16,357 There's tons of evidence. 5 00:00:16,357 --> 00:00:21,239 So there's a wave of UFOs over Pennsylvania and a strange residue reported coming down 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,279 from one of the craft. 7 00:00:23,279 --> 00:00:28,881 It started opening up into a V and just dropped this metallic stuff. 8 00:00:28,881 --> 00:00:34,762 In Poland there was a UFO sighting and supposedly some weird glowing rocks were left behind. 9 00:00:34,762 --> 00:00:39,404 The object is an aluminum alloy of unknown origin. 10 00:00:39,404 --> 00:00:45,245 And a metallic object reportedly ejected from a UFO. 11 00:00:45,245 --> 00:00:49,526 So am I seeing the soil itself begin to glow now? 12 00:00:49,526 --> 00:00:55,448 Could this trace evidence be proof that aliens are now monitoring planet Earth? 13 00:00:55,448 --> 00:00:58,169 This is something that I've been looking for all my life. 14 00:00:58,169 --> 00:01:02,170 This is definitely action terrestrial. 15 00:01:02,170 --> 00:01:25,516 This is case number 85004, UFO Relics. 16 00:01:25,516 --> 00:01:34,358 One of the most intriguing aspects of ufology tantalizing is the aspect of trace evidence. 17 00:01:34,358 --> 00:01:39,239 Trace evidence which forms the basis for most modern police investigations for forensic 18 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:40,720 lab work. 19 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,921 Entire cases are broken on what trace evidence there is. 20 00:01:43,921 --> 00:01:48,202 We're going to apply that to ufology and to UFO cases. 21 00:01:48,202 --> 00:01:52,843 In most of the cases that we've investigated, most of the evidence has been photos, videos 22 00:01:52,843 --> 00:01:54,844 and eyewitness testimonies. 23 00:01:54,844 --> 00:01:58,845 It's actually very rare to have something that you can analyze. 24 00:01:58,845 --> 00:02:01,846 Maybe we can get an understanding of what we're actually dealing with, what the UFO 25 00:02:01,846 --> 00:02:06,167 phenomenon is. 26 00:02:06,167 --> 00:02:09,127 Before I get too excited, I just want some confirmation here. 27 00:02:09,127 --> 00:02:13,649 Do we actually have something physical from somebody to analyze or is this something somebody 28 00:02:13,649 --> 00:02:16,289 saw or an object that somebody heard about? 29 00:02:16,289 --> 00:02:23,331 We are actually on our way to meet a resident in Bucks County, Pennsylvania who saw an object 30 00:02:23,331 --> 00:02:29,613 drop some kind of a flake type residue, snowflake type residue on a tree. 31 00:02:29,613 --> 00:02:34,294 This was analyzed and we are going to talk about the results of that chemical analysis 32 00:02:34,294 --> 00:02:37,855 of that material and see that analysis first hand. 33 00:02:37,855 --> 00:02:43,977 If we complete an analysis on an object and the conclusion is that this object is extraterrestrial 34 00:02:43,977 --> 00:02:46,137 and it's manufactured. 35 00:02:46,137 --> 00:02:48,818 That to me stands a test of science. 36 00:02:48,818 --> 00:02:58,981 That is the proof that I've been looking for this whole time. 37 00:02:58,981 --> 00:03:04,742 We're heading out to Bucks County, Pennsylvania where in 2008 the people in this area experienced 38 00:03:04,742 --> 00:03:08,503 a large surge in UFO sightings. 39 00:03:08,503 --> 00:03:13,625 Although many witnesses have seen these unidentified craft in the skies over the last year, we 40 00:03:13,625 --> 00:03:19,826 hear that in one case the UFO actually left some clues behind that may prove something 41 00:03:19,826 --> 00:03:21,347 anomalous occurred. 42 00:03:21,347 --> 00:03:26,188 In the ufology we call this trace evidence. 43 00:03:26,188 --> 00:03:31,870 And although it's very rare, it could be the smoking gun evidence that we need to solve 44 00:03:31,870 --> 00:03:36,391 this huge mystery. 45 00:03:36,391 --> 00:03:40,472 I've saw three different sightings of this craft. 46 00:03:40,472 --> 00:03:44,233 It was probably about 30 or 40 feet wide. 47 00:03:44,233 --> 00:03:49,954 It almost looked like you took a magnifying glass and put it over the sky and kind of 48 00:03:49,954 --> 00:03:51,835 moved it along. 49 00:03:51,835 --> 00:03:53,355 It was dead silent. 50 00:03:53,355 --> 00:03:54,356 You couldn't hear anything. 51 00:03:54,356 --> 00:04:00,557 It was there and then it disappeared right before my eyes. 52 00:04:00,557 --> 00:04:06,319 Eye witness testimony about UFOs seen in Pennsylvania is eerily similar. 53 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:12,801 One witness we set out to meet in Bucks County offers a story a bit more intriguing. 54 00:04:12,801 --> 00:04:20,323 The UFO left trace evidence behind a clue to the UFO's origin. 55 00:04:20,323 --> 00:04:25,404 I saw four craft in Bucks County. 56 00:04:25,404 --> 00:04:33,166 One of them spilled sparkle stuff down into my trees. 57 00:04:33,166 --> 00:04:35,887 My dog woke me up and he was growling. 58 00:04:35,887 --> 00:04:42,368 So when I came out I just saw this bright light in the sky. 59 00:04:42,368 --> 00:04:49,250 I looked up and this big metallic silver object was there. 60 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:52,171 So about how large would you say this object was? 61 00:04:52,171 --> 00:04:55,372 Probably like four of those tall trees. 62 00:04:55,372 --> 00:04:59,493 When it went on to its side you could get a good view of the shape of it. 63 00:04:59,493 --> 00:05:04,054 It almost looked like it had a bumper that was shaped into a boomerang and the rest was 64 00:05:04,054 --> 00:05:07,335 just circular. 65 00:05:07,335 --> 00:05:14,897 It started opening up into a V and just dropped this beautiful metallic stuff into this tree 66 00:05:14,897 --> 00:05:16,618 and that tree. 67 00:05:16,618 --> 00:05:21,819 It looked like sparkles, like diamonds and it was just flickering and it's never stopped 68 00:05:21,819 --> 00:05:24,020 flickering. 69 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:25,660 It was in the tree for about 20 minutes. 70 00:05:25,660 --> 00:05:27,661 I just was frozen. 71 00:05:27,661 --> 00:05:31,702 It just couldn't take my eyes off and I didn't want to go in the house and try to get a photograph 72 00:05:31,702 --> 00:05:35,423 because I was afraid of missing something and I'm glad that I chose that because all 73 00:05:35,423 --> 00:05:39,464 of a sudden it just sucked back up like it was a vacuum and it went right back up into 74 00:05:39,464 --> 00:05:43,985 a V shape again. 75 00:05:43,985 --> 00:05:46,265 Did you sense that it was a solid material? 76 00:05:46,265 --> 00:05:54,508 It looked like flakes or glitter that you would buy for a party and sprinkle around. 77 00:05:54,508 --> 00:05:55,508 Was it there the next morning? 78 00:05:55,508 --> 00:05:56,508 No. 79 00:05:56,508 --> 00:05:59,469 I didn't see anything after that. 80 00:05:59,469 --> 00:06:03,590 If this craft ejected or sprayed something onto Denise's tree, you would think that it 81 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:05,671 would leave some physical evidence behind. 82 00:06:05,671 --> 00:06:11,312 So that's what we're looking for. 83 00:06:11,312 --> 00:06:14,153 So eventually you contacted Move Farm with this. 84 00:06:14,153 --> 00:06:16,474 What exactly did they do when they showed up? 85 00:06:16,474 --> 00:06:21,155 They took pictures, took my story and they were taking samples of my tree. 86 00:06:21,155 --> 00:06:22,155 Did they find anything? 87 00:06:22,155 --> 00:06:23,155 Yeah, they said they did. 88 00:06:23,155 --> 00:06:31,798 Now our next step in this investigation is to talk to our friends from Pennsylvania 89 00:06:31,798 --> 00:06:37,519 Mufon, John Venturi and Bob Gardner and see exactly what they found and get their analysis 90 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:39,360 of that material. 91 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:45,241 Can you tell me what you guys did when you got the call, how you investigated this case? 92 00:06:45,241 --> 00:06:50,083 We have very specific procedures on how to collect evidence in the chain of custody. 93 00:06:50,083 --> 00:06:52,803 We stick to that chain of custody very tightly. 94 00:06:52,803 --> 00:06:56,124 So you're treating each case like a crime scene. 95 00:06:56,124 --> 00:06:59,645 Exactly. 96 00:06:59,645 --> 00:07:04,446 So how long did it take after Denise's report before you guys came down to take the samples? 97 00:07:04,446 --> 00:07:09,368 It took the sample maybe about a week after it came down. 98 00:07:09,368 --> 00:07:13,809 An entire week elapsed before Bob was able to get to the scene and search for trace evidence. 99 00:07:13,809 --> 00:07:17,970 And this might not sound like a long time, but when searching for clues at a crime scene, 100 00:07:17,970 --> 00:07:21,771 like these guys treat every one of their cases, it's an eternity. 101 00:07:21,891 --> 00:07:27,733 Any evidence that could possibly have been left there could be contaminated or gone altogether. 102 00:07:27,733 --> 00:07:28,933 But hopefully they got lucky. 103 00:07:28,933 --> 00:07:32,494 There were two trees that were actually affected. 104 00:07:32,494 --> 00:07:36,015 This privet tree here and then the maple tree back there. 105 00:07:36,015 --> 00:07:42,296 I took samples from the affected trees, took soil samples from the affected area. 106 00:07:42,296 --> 00:07:46,338 And then I walked down about a hundred yards, there was another maple tree on there. 107 00:07:46,338 --> 00:07:50,779 So I took a sample from there and then the closest thing I could find to this privet 108 00:07:50,779 --> 00:07:51,779 was around the corner. 109 00:07:51,779 --> 00:07:57,781 So I took a sample of that along with the soil, bagged it up and then sent it out to labs to be tested. 110 00:07:59,781 --> 00:08:00,781 What about equipment? 111 00:08:00,781 --> 00:08:03,782 Do you guys have any special equipment to detectors, that sort of thing? 112 00:08:03,782 --> 00:08:08,784 I have a Geiger counter, which for example when I came out, I put the Geiger counter over the leaves. 113 00:08:08,784 --> 00:08:10,784 It went off. 114 00:08:10,784 --> 00:08:14,785 And when I reached into the tree closer to the branches, it didn't go off. 115 00:08:14,785 --> 00:08:18,786 It went off on the outer part of the leaves where it was affected. 116 00:08:18,786 --> 00:08:21,787 And it even tested other trees around and got nothing. 117 00:08:21,787 --> 00:08:24,788 Bob conducted his investigation just like a CSI. 118 00:08:24,788 --> 00:08:30,789 An important step is to collect control samples from the trees and the dirt in the surrounding area. 119 00:08:30,789 --> 00:08:34,791 These samples are then used by scientists to read what is normal in the environment. 120 00:08:34,791 --> 00:08:41,792 They're then compared to samples that are collected from ground zero of the event to determine if anything anomalous has occurred. 121 00:08:41,792 --> 00:08:44,793 Like Bob said, he took samples from all around. 122 00:08:44,793 --> 00:08:50,795 But on this tree in particular, the leaves had like little busterets and burn marks on them. 123 00:08:50,795 --> 00:08:53,796 We have boron and magnesium on the leaves. 124 00:08:53,796 --> 00:09:03,798 So would you say in your opinion after the analysis that at least this and maybe the two of them, they were anomalous in their readings? 125 00:09:03,798 --> 00:09:04,799 Absolutely. 126 00:09:04,799 --> 00:09:08,800 Because Denise said she saw it happen on this tree and that tree. 127 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 And plus, it's not in the soil either. 128 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,801 Normally what's in the soil is in the tree. 129 00:09:13,801 --> 00:09:18,802 Bob took soil samples and the boron and magnesium, it was not in the soil. 130 00:09:18,802 --> 00:09:20,803 So something had to land on this tree. 131 00:09:24,804 --> 00:09:26,804 We normally get about eight UFO sightings a month. 132 00:09:26,804 --> 00:09:31,806 What happened in this case, we had 225 sightings in the second half of the year. 133 00:09:31,806 --> 00:09:38,808 We went from eight to a high of 63 in July and we were averaging 45 sightings a month. 134 00:09:38,808 --> 00:09:42,809 This area had half of all the UFO sightings last year. 135 00:09:44,809 --> 00:09:58,813 Could it be that the craft that dispersed an unknown substance over Denise's murderous tree matches the same craft that was seen by other witnesses in the area, but on different occasions? 136 00:09:58,813 --> 00:10:10,816 Although we have yet to find any other witnesses to talk about sparkles coming down from the craft, we decided to pull together three of the key UFO eye witnesses in the area. 137 00:10:10,816 --> 00:10:22,819 And we enlisted the help of sketch artist, Detective Sergeant Ivan Mendes of the Trenton Police Department to help us draw a composite sketch of what these witnesses might have seen. 138 00:10:25,820 --> 00:10:31,822 I would say it's like an aspirin shape. The sides were bubbled out. 139 00:10:31,822 --> 00:10:36,823 There was three glass bulbs on the bottom of the craft. 140 00:10:36,823 --> 00:10:42,825 And then it had small windows around the side of it. They were glowing. 141 00:10:42,825 --> 00:10:46,826 Beautiful colors kind of like spinning around look like windows. 142 00:10:46,826 --> 00:10:50,827 Do you mean you think the light was coming from inside the craft? 143 00:10:50,827 --> 00:10:53,828 That's what I was guessing by the look that I had. 144 00:10:53,828 --> 00:10:59,829 And it was kind of shaped like this like a hang glider is the way I would describe it. 145 00:10:59,829 --> 00:11:03,830 And it was flying this way like that. 146 00:11:07,831 --> 00:11:10,832 Oh, that's good. That's excellent. 147 00:11:12,833 --> 00:11:18,834 It's kind of like a ball, like a circular, but it was very like edgy like it kind of had a lot of angles. 148 00:11:18,834 --> 00:11:21,835 If you had to compare this to an object, what would you compare it to? 149 00:11:21,835 --> 00:11:25,836 Probably more like a stop sign. But it had like plates on the side of it. 150 00:11:25,836 --> 00:11:27,837 It had more angles than that. 151 00:11:27,837 --> 00:11:33,838 So it was a sphere, but multifaceted, a lot more sides on this thing. 152 00:11:33,838 --> 00:11:34,839 Yeah, exactly. 153 00:11:34,839 --> 00:11:37,839 Take a look at this and just see how close this is to what you saw. 154 00:11:37,839 --> 00:11:41,841 I think that's pretty accurate on the way I saw it. 155 00:11:41,841 --> 00:11:44,841 It's looking pretty real like the way I saw it. 156 00:11:45,842 --> 00:11:50,843 After meeting with the witnesses and after seeing Sergeant Mendez and Sketch's, 157 00:11:50,843 --> 00:11:55,844 we made a discovery that I believe validates Denise Murders' experience. 158 00:11:55,844 --> 00:11:59,845 I mean, it's quite obvious based on the pictures. Everything's consistent with each other. 159 00:12:05,847 --> 00:12:11,849 At first it looked like it would be a plane, but I could tell at night time when I saw it that all these lights, 160 00:12:11,849 --> 00:12:14,849 they don't match up to what a plane would look like. 161 00:12:15,850 --> 00:12:20,851 We've enlisted the help of police sketch artist Sergeant Ivan Mendez 162 00:12:20,851 --> 00:12:26,853 to see if eyewitnesses here in Pennsylvania are seeing the same or similar craft. 163 00:12:26,853 --> 00:12:30,854 The sketches are mind-boggling, and I feel that the sketch has shown to us 164 00:12:30,854 --> 00:12:37,855 authenticate Denise Murders' sighting and quite possibly the UFO trace evidence itself. 165 00:12:37,855 --> 00:12:43,857 I mean, it's quite obvious based on the pictures. Everything has an asper light circular shape. 166 00:12:44,857 --> 00:12:48,858 They definitely all have some similarity with respect to the lighting. 167 00:12:49,859 --> 00:12:52,859 Everything's consistent with each other. 168 00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:58,861 What's really interesting about this description is it looks so similar to Denise's description. 169 00:12:58,861 --> 00:13:02,862 You've got lights around the edge primarily and then lights on the bottom. 170 00:13:02,862 --> 00:13:07,863 Denise says that there were three lights. It was Caitlin who says there are multiple lights at the bottom, 171 00:13:07,863 --> 00:13:10,864 but I don't know, maybe this is just a recollection. 172 00:13:10,864 --> 00:13:14,865 Would it be safe to conclude that these might actually be the same craft? 173 00:13:14,865 --> 00:13:18,866 Oh, absolutely. Witnesses see things differently, especially during the course of excitement 174 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:21,867 or the level of stress they're experiencing at the time. 175 00:13:21,867 --> 00:13:24,868 So being the fact that we actually put these together side by side, 176 00:13:24,868 --> 00:13:28,869 I mean, they have a lot of characteristics in common, so I would have to say yes. 177 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:38,872 According to Sergeant Mendez's professional opinion, all of our witnesses in Bucks County saw the same thing. 178 00:13:38,872 --> 00:13:41,873 The question in front of us now is why are they here? 179 00:13:41,873 --> 00:13:46,874 Are they testing our trees? Are they testing our people as well? 180 00:13:46,874 --> 00:13:49,875 We have to find out what they're testing. 181 00:13:49,875 --> 00:13:55,876 We're going to meet with Nancy Talbot of BLT Research, who's investigated countless other trace evidence cases. 182 00:13:55,876 --> 00:13:59,877 She packaged the research on this whole Bucks County investigation. 183 00:14:02,878 --> 00:14:06,879 Well, Nancy, we're investigating some of the best UFO trace cases that we can. 184 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:09,880 We're wondering what are some of the best cases you've come up with? 185 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,881 Several years ago, I went to Poland. 186 00:14:11,881 --> 00:14:16,882 We discovered the Golobki Rock case, which produced some magnificent evidence. 187 00:14:16,882 --> 00:14:22,884 Nancy embarked on a research trip to Poland to investigate multiple trace evidence cases. 188 00:14:22,884 --> 00:14:26,885 She visited the small town of Golobki, where she investigated a UFO encounter 189 00:14:26,885 --> 00:14:30,886 that occurred on a small farm in a very rural area. 190 00:14:30,886 --> 00:14:33,886 There's a young man there. His name is Mioś. 191 00:14:33,886 --> 00:14:38,888 And he was 11 or 12 at the time this had happened. It was 1998, I believe. 192 00:14:38,888 --> 00:14:44,889 And they live in this tiny little town of Golobki. There are only maybe five or six farms in the village. 193 00:14:44,889 --> 00:14:52,892 And one night, his mother, Evelina Kus, was awakened in the middle of the night by an orange red glow coming through her windows. 194 00:14:53,892 --> 00:15:01,894 She got up, went to the windows, and then observed a disc-shaped, brilliant, fiery, orangey-red object 195 00:15:01,894 --> 00:15:05,895 very slowly coming down into this field. 196 00:15:05,895 --> 00:15:13,897 As she watched this thing to slowly settle down into that field, and after a while the glow died out, 197 00:15:13,897 --> 00:15:15,898 it wasn't very long before the whole family got up. 198 00:15:15,898 --> 00:15:21,899 Mioś decided to go down to the spot in the field where she had seen this thing. 199 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:29,901 He found a bunch of stones in a more or less elliptical arrangement down at the very end of that field 200 00:15:29,901 --> 00:15:31,902 that had never been there before. 201 00:15:32,902 --> 00:15:35,903 It was the location of the sighting of the unidentified flying object. 202 00:15:35,903 --> 00:15:40,904 Did that correlate to the location of the ring of stones that was found in the field? 203 00:15:40,904 --> 00:15:43,905 According to Evelina, precisely. 204 00:15:44,905 --> 00:15:50,907 It's an interesting connection that this mysterious ring of stones were found exactly where the UFO was witnessed. 205 00:15:50,907 --> 00:15:55,908 I'm eager to find out what these stones really are and why were they even placed there. 206 00:15:56,909 --> 00:16:00,910 So he tried to pick them up and they were too heavy. He was only 11 at the time. 207 00:16:00,910 --> 00:16:07,912 In the center though, there was one smaller one and that picture on the top is the one smaller one that he could lift. 208 00:16:07,912 --> 00:16:09,912 They were very dense. 209 00:16:09,912 --> 00:16:14,913 Okay, so these rocks, they were actually sitting on top of the ground. 210 00:16:14,913 --> 00:16:16,914 They were apparently deposited. 211 00:16:16,914 --> 00:16:22,916 It is bizarre, but the evidence points to these stones just being dropped on a farm in Poland. 212 00:16:22,916 --> 00:16:27,917 Although there is no obvious way to explain this, Nancy told us of some other cases that occurred nearby the farm 213 00:16:27,917 --> 00:16:30,918 that may offer another explanation. 214 00:16:31,918 --> 00:16:37,920 While I was there, I also investigated a number of very strange holes in a nearby village. 215 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,921 A neighbor had witnessed one evening a brilliant triangle up over the trees, very close to the house. 216 00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:53,924 It hovered for a while over that field and her grandson found this huge hole in the snow with no dirt on the snow at all. 217 00:16:53,924 --> 00:16:55,924 And all the fill was taken out? 218 00:16:55,924 --> 00:16:58,925 And there was none of it deposited on the snow. 219 00:16:59,925 --> 00:17:07,928 There were several other cases of that same sort of thing documented in the time period just before Evelina Kus had her sighting. 220 00:17:08,928 --> 00:17:17,930 We wonder, are these crafts actually using soil to test and deposit elsewhere? 221 00:17:17,930 --> 00:17:26,933 Is it like Denise Murders' tree where some particles rain down on it and then we're vacuumed up again by some beam? 222 00:17:26,933 --> 00:17:30,934 Wherever these crafts come from, they're not just looking at us. 223 00:17:30,934 --> 00:17:33,935 They're testing our leaves and grass and ground. 224 00:17:33,935 --> 00:17:35,935 They're testing our soil. 225 00:17:36,935 --> 00:17:38,936 And they're testing us. 226 00:17:42,937 --> 00:17:52,940 Samples from Denise Murders' tree and pieces of the rock from Golobki, Poland were sent to frontier labs in Chagrin Falls, Ohio. 227 00:17:53,940 --> 00:18:00,942 Phyllis Budinger along with Nick Ryder have analyzed these samples and we hope they can provide us with some answers. 228 00:18:01,942 --> 00:18:05,943 So what was the first analysis that you did with the samples that you got from Mufa? 229 00:18:05,943 --> 00:18:10,944 I reviewed them with a fluorescent light to see if I could find any visible particles. 230 00:18:10,944 --> 00:18:14,946 Was there anything actually stuck to the leaves that looked unusual? 231 00:18:14,946 --> 00:18:15,946 Was there? 232 00:18:15,946 --> 00:18:26,949 I did find on the affected tree leaves a couple of specks that actually floreste green under a long wave UV handheld lamp. 233 00:18:26,949 --> 00:18:36,951 So those piqued my interest and took a look at them with a scanning electron microscope and energy dispersive spectroscopy. 234 00:18:38,952 --> 00:18:47,954 A scanning electron microscope, or SEM, is a type of electron microscope that images a sample's surface by scanning it with a high energy beam of electrons. 235 00:18:48,955 --> 00:19:00,958 The electrons then interact with the atoms that make up the sample, or in this case, the UFO trace evidence, which then provides the analysts with important information regarding the sample's composition and chemical makeup. 236 00:19:02,958 --> 00:19:05,959 As you can see here in this photo, they look like eggshells. 237 00:19:05,959 --> 00:19:12,961 Now of course this whole flight that these were part of was only maybe the size of a head of a pin. 238 00:19:12,961 --> 00:19:14,962 Nick, have you found this substance in any other cases? 239 00:19:14,962 --> 00:19:23,964 There have been a number of cases off and on over the years in UFO residue of very small microscopic spherical particles. 240 00:19:23,964 --> 00:19:31,966 The leaves at least appeared to have roughly twice the boron content than the control leaves did. 241 00:19:33,967 --> 00:19:39,968 Is it possible that the landlord of the premises saw that this tree wasn't doing well and sprayed some pesticides on it? 242 00:19:39,968 --> 00:19:41,969 It is certainly possible. 243 00:19:42,969 --> 00:19:54,972 Boron is a key element in many pesticides, so it's entirely plausible that the reason for these increased levels of boron is due to the landlord or the gardener simply spraying an infested tree. 244 00:19:54,972 --> 00:19:58,973 What is the evidence that we have here that is absolutely anomalous? 245 00:19:58,973 --> 00:20:01,974 It sounds to me like it might be these fluorescent particles. 246 00:20:01,974 --> 00:20:03,975 Explanation was something natural. 247 00:20:03,975 --> 00:20:06,975 And I says, oh my goodness, I recognize that. 248 00:20:06,975 --> 00:20:08,976 And I match it up with a reference in my files. 249 00:20:08,976 --> 00:20:10,977 And I said, it's uric acid. 250 00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:14,978 I said, that's the primary component of bird urine. 251 00:20:17,978 --> 00:20:19,979 So maybe the findings are a bit humorous. 252 00:20:19,979 --> 00:20:25,981 The analysis shows that Nick and Phyllis' work, it's been meticulous. 253 00:20:25,981 --> 00:20:28,981 And you can't blame them because all they found was bird pee. 254 00:20:28,981 --> 00:20:36,983 You know, trace evidence because quite frankly, all the real trace evidence, the evidence of the UFO back had been washed away long ago. 255 00:20:36,983 --> 00:20:38,984 That doesn't mean the end of this case. 256 00:20:38,984 --> 00:20:43,985 It only means that the trace evidence might have been there, but now it's gone. 257 00:20:45,986 --> 00:20:52,988 So in addition to this Bucks County case, both of you also analyzed the material from the Golobki case in Poland. 258 00:20:52,988 --> 00:20:54,988 What did you find in that case? 259 00:20:54,988 --> 00:20:58,989 Well, we basically found that there was vitrified glass-like soil. 260 00:20:58,989 --> 00:21:02,990 It looked like it was dirt in a glassy form. 261 00:21:03,991 --> 00:21:09,992 Soil vitrification occurs when soil is heated to 1500 to 3000 degrees Fahrenheit. 262 00:21:09,992 --> 00:21:13,993 Although vitrification can occur naturally, let's say with a lightning strike, 263 00:21:13,993 --> 00:21:18,995 the unnatural process of soil vitrification is being used to clean up toxic waste sites. 264 00:21:18,995 --> 00:21:23,996 The process includes putting four electrodes into the infected area of the toxic spill. 265 00:21:23,996 --> 00:21:28,997 An electric current is then passed through the electrodes to create heat, thus melting the surrounding soil. 266 00:21:28,997 --> 00:21:34,999 The result? A glass-like rock that contains the harmful contaminants, making it safe for transportation. 267 00:21:34,999 --> 00:21:41,001 It's an expensive process and fairly new technology that is only now beginning to be utilized. 268 00:21:41,001 --> 00:21:47,002 Is it likely that this is the explanation for the soil vitrification in Golobki, Poland? Probably not. 269 00:21:47,002 --> 00:21:51,003 So there was no evidence of someone performing this vitrification there? 270 00:21:51,003 --> 00:21:52,004 No, that was my understanding. 271 00:21:52,004 --> 00:22:01,006 So which leaves us with the possibility that it was either trucked in or that there is some connection with the UFO that was sighted the night before. 272 00:22:01,006 --> 00:22:09,008 One other explanation is that hoaxters created this vitrified soil and placed it in the backyard of the Kus family farm. 273 00:22:09,008 --> 00:22:14,009 Why? Who knows? But we have to entertain this possibility. 274 00:22:14,009 --> 00:22:19,011 So they found vitrified soil the size of cinder blocks, and that's a pretty big size. 275 00:22:19,011 --> 00:22:24,012 What kind of equipment do you think it would take for a human being to make something like that? 276 00:22:24,012 --> 00:22:32,014 You'd probably have to resort to a really large hydrogen torch, but all of those things require industrial-sized commitment. 277 00:22:32,014 --> 00:22:35,015 You could not make these in your barn. 278 00:22:37,016 --> 00:22:42,017 Vitrification of soil is expensive, and it's difficult. However, it is possible. 279 00:22:42,017 --> 00:22:44,017 But is it with tools normally found on a farm? 280 00:22:44,017 --> 00:22:52,020 We've arranged a vitrification test to determine if using an arc welder and an oxyacetylene torch can produce enough heat to create vitrified soil. 281 00:22:56,021 --> 00:23:06,023 We're in Levittown, Pennsylvania, meeting Cindy Fidgielkowski, owner of First Choice Welding, to see if we can fuse soil together using common welding equipment. 282 00:23:06,023 --> 00:23:11,025 We have two different processes that can definitely surpass 3,000 degrees. 283 00:23:11,025 --> 00:23:18,027 The oxygen-acetylene torch uses the two gases combined to produce temperatures around 6,000 degrees. 284 00:23:18,027 --> 00:23:22,028 The other process that we can use is called stick welding. 285 00:23:22,028 --> 00:23:28,029 What that uses is an electrical current that goes from the welding rod into the workpiece. 286 00:23:28,029 --> 00:23:31,030 Temperatures can go up to 10 to 12,000 degrees. 287 00:23:32,030 --> 00:23:41,033 So, speaking from the perspective of a rural barn in Poland, you'd need a real power supply, a real heavy-duty power supply for that second process you're talking about. 288 00:23:41,033 --> 00:23:42,033 Yes. 289 00:23:44,033 --> 00:23:46,034 Have you ever tried anything like this before? 290 00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:47,034 No, I have not. 291 00:23:47,034 --> 00:23:48,035 Do you think we'll have any success? 292 00:23:48,035 --> 00:23:49,035 Give it a whirl. 293 00:23:49,035 --> 00:23:50,035 Let's go. 294 00:23:56,037 --> 00:23:59,037 We've come to First Choice Welding to meet with Cindy Fidgielkowski. 295 00:23:59,037 --> 00:24:07,040 We've set up a vitrification test to determine if common tools found on a farm or an industrial environment can produce enough heat to create vitrified soil. 296 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:16,042 We know that during a UFO sighting in Galapki, Poland, vitrified soil was either dropped or intentionally placed on a farm, but we don't know why. 297 00:24:16,042 --> 00:24:24,044 Entertaining the theory that this could be a hoax, we want to see what somebody would have to go through to create these chunks of vitrified soil. 298 00:24:25,044 --> 00:24:28,045 All right, I'm happy with the way the soil is set up. 299 00:24:29,045 --> 00:24:41,049 I did look into the Securo New Mexico case, which involved Lonnie Zamora's sighting of a craft that landed in the desert and caused a classification or vitrification to occur in the desert. 300 00:24:41,049 --> 00:24:46,050 We actually visited a local artisan who used a type of oven for melting glass. 301 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:54,052 He told me that it's actually very difficult to melt sand using welding equipment, so I'll be very interested to see if we can actually do that today. 302 00:24:55,052 --> 00:24:58,053 So the first thing I'd like to do is start with the arc welder. 303 00:25:00,054 --> 00:25:05,055 We're first going to see if an arc welder can produce a vitrified piece of soil. 304 00:25:05,055 --> 00:25:07,056 The process is relatively simple. 305 00:25:07,056 --> 00:25:12,057 We laid a piece of metal on top of the dirt and welded it to the surrounding box that we built to contain the soil. 306 00:25:12,057 --> 00:25:18,059 This container is now grounded to the earth, allowing the current to flow and the weld to take place. 307 00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:24,060 The hottest point on the metal is going to be the exact point where the welding rod meets the metal. 308 00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:29,062 And then as we weld, the heat is going to flow with the weld and it is going to disperse. 309 00:25:29,062 --> 00:25:32,062 However, it is going to lose about 50% of its heat processed. 310 00:25:32,062 --> 00:25:55,068 Well, there seems to be some charring there. 311 00:25:55,068 --> 00:25:59,070 Is it possible that some vitrification occurred on a granular level? 312 00:25:59,070 --> 00:26:01,070 Maybe for a minute. 313 00:26:01,070 --> 00:26:03,071 But certainly not on the scale that we're talking about in polis. 314 00:26:03,071 --> 00:26:04,071 No. 315 00:26:04,071 --> 00:26:07,072 Huge significant blocks of vitrified substance. 316 00:26:08,072 --> 00:26:13,073 We attempted to vitrify soil using an arc welding process and we had no success. 317 00:26:13,073 --> 00:26:15,074 To tell you the truth, I didn't expect that we would. 318 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:20,075 The heat dissipated into the environment and it wasn't concentrated enough to vitrify the soil. 319 00:26:21,075 --> 00:26:25,077 So next we're going to attempt to vitrify the soil using an oxyacetylene torch. 320 00:26:25,077 --> 00:26:32,078 And I expect to have more success with this because we have a high temperature flame in direct contact with the soil. 321 00:26:32,078 --> 00:26:39,080 We're talking about a maximum of 6,000 degrees of heat, which is well beyond the limits of what is needed. 322 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,081 And we're going to apply this heat for about a minute, maybe two. 323 00:26:55,085 --> 00:27:03,087 It looks like we're having some kind of reaction there to tell you the truth already. 324 00:27:03,087 --> 00:27:07,088 I'm not sure of the vitrification, but you can see the soil glowing. 325 00:27:08,088 --> 00:27:14,090 Right now the flame from the oxyacetylene torch is melting and therefore fusing the different elements inside. 326 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:21,091 I think it's obvious that this is working, but how much vitrified soil are we actually going to be able to create is the question. 327 00:27:22,092 --> 00:27:25,093 So am I seeing the soil itself begin to glow now? 328 00:27:25,093 --> 00:27:31,094 Look at how much work it's taking just to melt that little coin-sized bit of dirt though. 329 00:27:34,095 --> 00:27:36,095 Alright, I think that's good enough for now. 330 00:27:40,097 --> 00:27:42,097 Okay, so we have a little crater. 331 00:27:52,100 --> 00:28:01,102 Well, it's obvious from the results of the oxyacetylene test that you can vitrify soil using high heat, using metalworking tools that are found on a farm. 332 00:28:01,102 --> 00:28:11,105 But it was just such a small amount, a very thin layer, and we would not be able to make anything comparable to the size of what was found in Poland. 333 00:28:12,105 --> 00:28:17,106 What are the chances of some kid in Poland being able to do this with welding equipment? 334 00:28:17,106 --> 00:28:23,108 Maybe if we took about 15 of them, put them together and did it impossible on a farm. 335 00:28:25,109 --> 00:28:27,109 This was really fascinating. 336 00:28:27,109 --> 00:28:33,111 Well, I think it's interesting when you think about how much energy was generated just to create that little tiny chunk. 337 00:28:33,111 --> 00:28:38,112 I think it's safe to say that these giant vitrified chunks weren't created with normal farming equipment. 338 00:28:38,112 --> 00:28:39,112 That's for sure. 339 00:28:39,112 --> 00:28:46,114 Well, there's one thing that we really need to remember is that soil vitrification didn't happen at the same place where the UFO sighting was. 340 00:28:46,114 --> 00:28:50,115 I'm not saying that the UFO didn't create it, but it didn't vitrify there. 341 00:28:50,115 --> 00:28:55,117 Now, you know Nancy was talking about these mysterious holes that she was investigating in Poland as well. 342 00:28:55,117 --> 00:29:03,119 Put two and two together, maybe these UFOs are analyzing our soil the same way we think the sparkles are analyzing Denise Murders tree. 343 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,119 Well, think about it for a second. 344 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:13,121 If there are extraterrestrials traveling halfway across the universe to the planet Earth, they have superior technology in so many ways. 345 00:29:13,121 --> 00:29:18,123 Do they really need to analyze a tree in Nancy's backyard and some soil in a farm in Poland? 346 00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:19,123 Well, I mean, why not? 347 00:29:19,123 --> 00:29:21,124 What would you know about an advanced civilization? 348 00:29:21,124 --> 00:29:23,124 We don't know what they're up to. 349 00:29:23,124 --> 00:29:25,125 You're both right in your own way. 350 00:29:25,125 --> 00:29:29,126 I think we could debate this the entire day. 351 00:29:29,126 --> 00:29:32,126 Here's something that I think will really fascinate you. 352 00:29:32,126 --> 00:29:34,127 We're going to talk to Bob White. 353 00:29:34,127 --> 00:29:41,129 Bob White says that he saw a UFO, it saw him, it shot something to Earth. 354 00:29:41,129 --> 00:29:44,130 He picked it up and he's a piece of a UFO. 355 00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:46,130 If this is the real thing, I want to see it. 356 00:29:54,132 --> 00:30:01,134 When it went up into the sky, it was something I had never seen before and I had the feeling it was not of this world. 357 00:30:04,135 --> 00:30:07,136 Hi, good morning. Hi Bob, how are you? 358 00:30:12,137 --> 00:30:17,139 Although we've looked at other UFO trace evidence cases, Bob's is different. 359 00:30:17,139 --> 00:30:24,140 He says he has an actual piece of a UFO that he discovered after an amazing encounter in 1985. 360 00:30:26,141 --> 00:30:31,142 Bob, could you tell us how you came into possession of this unique looking object? 361 00:30:31,142 --> 00:30:39,144 I was in Grand Junction, Colorado, between Grand Junction and Cistl, Utah, and it was late at night and the lady friend and I were driving. 362 00:30:39,144 --> 00:30:41,145 We saw this light up ahead. 363 00:30:43,145 --> 00:30:47,147 This was a huge light. It was about the size of a three-story building. 364 00:30:48,147 --> 00:30:54,148 She turned the headlights on me and when she did this thing just shot up in the air like that just as fast as my eyes could follow it. 365 00:30:55,149 --> 00:31:03,151 And it connected to two other lights, like two blue and neon tubular lights, one on top of the other with a space in between. 366 00:31:04,151 --> 00:31:16,154 And when it hit this, it just shot out of sight. But before it did, I saw kind of a little explosion like this thing came back down toward me. 367 00:31:18,155 --> 00:31:25,157 There was a groove in the ground and I followed the groove in the ground until I saw this thing lying there and it was still going hot. 368 00:31:26,157 --> 00:31:37,160 So after Bob sees this object, he heads out to where he thought the piece had landed and he sees this groove in the ground as if this piece came down at a high velocity and skidded to a stop. 369 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:46,162 Now this is the first time I've heard a story like this and the fact that he not only found this piece but has it to show is amazing. 370 00:31:47,163 --> 00:31:49,163 So Dr. Gibbons, have you done any work yourself on this? 371 00:31:50,163 --> 00:31:51,164 Yes, I have. 372 00:31:52,164 --> 00:31:58,166 Dr. Robert Gibbons is a physicist who's formerly worked at NASA, Northrop Grumman and Hughes Aircraft. 373 00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:06,168 He served in the U.S. Army for over 20 years and his entire experience, he's never encountered anything quite like the Bob White object. 374 00:32:07,168 --> 00:32:13,170 In the year 2000, he joined Bob White's team to determine once and for all what this object really is. 375 00:32:14,170 --> 00:32:23,172 We went to Laughlin, Nevada and during that time the object affected the batteries in the wall safe at the hotel three days in a row. 376 00:32:24,172 --> 00:32:27,173 The batteries had died and were broken open the first day. 377 00:32:28,174 --> 00:32:32,175 People from the hotel had to come up and put on an electronic meter to open the safe. 378 00:32:33,175 --> 00:32:37,176 The meter said the safe is open yet it was not. So the first night they had to drill it. 379 00:32:37,176 --> 00:32:48,179 This happened two more nights in a row. There must be some effect coming from the object, some kind of radiation or something causing those batteries to go dead. 380 00:32:50,179 --> 00:32:55,181 Whatever caused this safe to malfunction, it was obviously not an isolated incident. 381 00:32:56,181 --> 00:33:04,183 So to determine if it was some kind of x-ray or gamma ray, Dr. Gibbons set up a test utilizing dental x-ray film and the Bob White object. 382 00:33:05,183 --> 00:33:17,187 I made a cylinder. We put a film, an exposed film at the top, an exposed film at the bottom and then we had a casing in on the cylinder film. 383 00:33:18,187 --> 00:33:21,188 And we came up with a really, really interesting conclusion. 384 00:33:22,188 --> 00:33:28,190 These are the actual dental x-ray films. The one of importance is the one with the two black spots. 385 00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:32,191 So you're saying you held the object up to x-ray. 386 00:33:33,191 --> 00:33:46,194 Actually, they sat on the film for 48 hours and during that time something exposed the film, not just fogged it, but put two distinct spots which match up with the two lobes, if you will, of the object. 387 00:33:48,195 --> 00:33:52,196 It looks like the object has two distinct lobes, as Dr. Gibbons calls them. 388 00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:59,198 And in this x-ray test, when you line up the film with the object, the two lobes match up almost perfectly with the exposure on the film. 389 00:34:00,198 --> 00:34:09,201 So something is emitting from the object that causes the film to expose. But what this is and the reason for this, it's still undetermined. 390 00:34:10,201 --> 00:34:13,202 Well, what about scientists? What have they said about this? 391 00:34:13,202 --> 00:34:23,204 The first thing I did was send it to New Mexico Tech and Dr. F***ing said, had I known the story on this, I would have suggested that you do isotope ratio abundance test on it. 392 00:34:24,205 --> 00:34:27,205 Because he said we don't have the equipment here to perform these tests. 393 00:34:28,206 --> 00:34:33,207 An isotopic ratio abundance test measures the amount of isotopes in a given element. 394 00:34:34,207 --> 00:34:39,209 Different elements like chromium, titanium and strontium have a range of isotopes in their composition. 395 00:34:39,209 --> 00:34:44,210 But formed in a different or even alien environment, these ratios could be different. 396 00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:58,214 I had contacts to go to Los Alamos and there I met F***ing who was the top metallurgist and Dr. F***ing who they called in on special occasions. 397 00:34:59,214 --> 00:35:03,215 And he was really excited about this because he had never seen anything like it before. 398 00:35:03,215 --> 00:35:09,217 He said to me, this is something that I've been looking for all my life. He said this is definitely exentraceal. 399 00:35:10,217 --> 00:35:16,218 Now we have a report from Los Alamos. They said they did the analysis on silicon. 400 00:35:17,219 --> 00:35:21,220 I called Dr. F***ing and I asked him about it. He said aluminum, aluminum. 401 00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:28,222 And I'm saying, why does he keep talking about aluminum? The report says you did it on silicon. 402 00:35:28,222 --> 00:35:37,224 He said we will have to talk about it. So I called F***ing and F***ing said isotopes? No, we didn't do any isotopes tests at all. 403 00:35:38,224 --> 00:35:43,226 Although Los Alamos was supposed to do this isotopic ratio abundance test, they denied that they did. 404 00:35:44,226 --> 00:35:49,227 So were you getting the feeling that all these scientists that were doing the analysis were lying to you? 405 00:35:50,228 --> 00:35:51,228 Absolutely lying to me. 406 00:35:51,228 --> 00:36:03,231 We have a piece that may have fallen off of a UFO. We know that it affected a wall safe and caused it to malfunction three nights in a row. 407 00:36:04,231 --> 00:36:11,233 And although there have been multiple labs and analysts that have looked at this object, Bob claims that they're scared to talk about it after their tests. 408 00:36:12,233 --> 00:36:16,234 But we've contacted two scientists who are brave enough to talk to us and analyze the Bob White object. 409 00:36:17,235 --> 00:36:24,237 My initial impression of the object was that it was extremely extraordinary. It was something like which I'd never seen before. 410 00:36:25,237 --> 00:36:30,238 Chris Ellis is a solid state physicist with an expertise focusing on aluminum alloys and semiconductors. 411 00:36:31,238 --> 00:36:42,241 After pouring over the data, we found that the object is an aluminum alloy of unknown origin. This is not anything like we've seen before. 412 00:36:43,242 --> 00:36:50,244 There are some very unusual metals in this object that you typically do not find in other alloys. 413 00:36:51,244 --> 00:36:58,246 What's the chance that these elements would end up in this alloy either naturally or accidentally? 414 00:36:59,246 --> 00:37:00,246 I'd have to say pretty much zero. 415 00:37:01,246 --> 00:37:05,248 So this is absolutely a manufactured object. 416 00:37:05,248 --> 00:37:13,250 Looking at a detailed list of all the metals and all the elements that can be found in this object, it's conclusive that they're there by purpose. 417 00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:18,251 This looks like a manufactured piece created by some form of intelligence. 418 00:37:19,251 --> 00:37:24,253 Now, could it be made by us or could it have been made by an extraterrestrial? 419 00:37:25,253 --> 00:37:29,254 We're looking at something much more advanced than what we're currently familiar with today. 420 00:37:35,256 --> 00:37:39,257 We are in Kimberling City, Missouri investigating the Bob White story. 421 00:37:40,257 --> 00:37:47,259 In 1985, after seeing multiple UFOs, an object is either ejected or shot down towards the ground. 422 00:37:48,259 --> 00:37:54,261 Through scrupulous scientific analysis, no one can say what this piece actually is. 423 00:37:55,261 --> 00:38:00,262 We are now sitting down with two scientists who are brave enough to come out and speak to us. 424 00:38:00,262 --> 00:38:10,265 And even though the institutions that are affiliated with requested to remain anonymous, we are uncovering new clues that are being discovered about Bob White's object. 425 00:38:11,265 --> 00:38:16,267 I did two types of tests. The first test I did was X-ray diffraction analysis. 426 00:38:17,267 --> 00:38:21,268 David Lamb is a research scientist currently at a major university in the U.S. 427 00:38:22,268 --> 00:38:27,269 His expertise is in physics and material science, and he spent the past year researching the Bob White object. 428 00:38:27,269 --> 00:38:32,271 What's very unique about this is we have what's called an amorphous peak here. 429 00:38:33,271 --> 00:38:38,272 And that amorphous peak tells me that this is a polycrystalline semiconductor. 430 00:38:39,273 --> 00:38:42,273 What's the significance of that? I mean, how anomalous is that? 431 00:38:43,274 --> 00:38:44,274 You don't find that in aircraft aluminum. 432 00:38:45,274 --> 00:38:46,275 Where do you find it? 433 00:38:47,275 --> 00:38:48,275 I'm not aware you find it anywhere. 434 00:38:49,275 --> 00:38:56,277 Another thing that's very unusual in this is it has silver in it and a very high percentage of silver, about 4.3% silver. 435 00:38:57,277 --> 00:39:02,279 Silver is only used in aluminum at the experimental stage of superconductivity. 436 00:39:03,279 --> 00:39:09,281 If you spray the surface of aluminum with silver, then you enhance superconductivity. 437 00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:20,284 Superconductivity is a phenomenon in some metals that occurs at very low temperatures, resulting in absolutely zero electrical resistance and excludes the interior magnetic field. 438 00:39:20,284 --> 00:39:29,286 This means that an electric current introduced to the superconductor can flow and persist freely and indefinitely without any added power source. 439 00:39:30,286 --> 00:39:36,288 Let's say you fire a bullet through a magnetic field, well, it's going to have experience dragged. 440 00:39:37,288 --> 00:39:39,289 But what if that bullet was able to superconductor? 441 00:39:40,289 --> 00:39:43,290 It would expel the magnetic field and that bullet would not slow down. 442 00:39:44,290 --> 00:39:46,291 It would not experience any kind of drag. 443 00:39:46,291 --> 00:40:00,294 So if this was something traveling through space and it was going through, let's say, Jupiter's powerful magnetic field, it could theoretically expel that magnetic field and zip past Jupiter without experiencing those forces. 444 00:40:02,295 --> 00:40:04,295 Now, is superconductivity that difficult to achieve? 445 00:40:05,296 --> 00:40:13,298 Space is the perfect environment for superconductivity. You have to expend no energy to get objects to be superconductive in space. 446 00:40:13,298 --> 00:40:20,300 So if an object were fabricated to travel in space on its own, this would be the kind of object it would be. 447 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:28,302 Yes. You're going to get the biggest bang for your buck out of the native properties of this object in space. 448 00:40:29,302 --> 00:40:30,302 It's a perfect fit. 449 00:40:32,303 --> 00:40:34,303 Let's put the pieces together. 450 00:40:35,304 --> 00:40:38,304 Bob White's object reminds me of other cases we've investigated in the past. 451 00:40:39,305 --> 00:40:45,306 Morrie Island, where a witness said metal objects were ejected from a UFO. 452 00:40:46,307 --> 00:40:56,309 I took a little sample from the serrated edge of this aluminum piece. Most of the material you can identify. You know, it's the question of whether it's anomalous or whether it's normal. 453 00:40:57,310 --> 00:41:04,311 Aurora, Texas, where Brawley Oates gave us an unknown aluminum alloy discovered at a mysterious crash site. 454 00:41:05,312 --> 00:41:08,312 Right away we could tell this was aluminum. That's the highest peak. 455 00:41:09,313 --> 00:41:12,314 What's that one, that larger peak? Could we have picked up contaminants from the soil? 456 00:41:13,314 --> 00:41:17,315 Even if we did it, it should correspond to some element that we could match here. 457 00:41:18,315 --> 00:41:20,316 That's interesting. Maybe we discovered a brand new element. 458 00:41:21,316 --> 00:41:29,318 What do all these things have in common? These objects have unique qualities that might point to an extraterrestrial origin. 459 00:41:30,318 --> 00:41:35,320 So we've had three trace evidence cases that we've looked at. 460 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:42,322 And each time I get excited that we're going to come up with some kind of evidence that proves what we're dealing with is not of this earth. 461 00:41:43,322 --> 00:41:45,322 But every time I'm disappointed. 462 00:41:46,323 --> 00:41:48,323 I think the evidence is absolutely overwhelming. 463 00:41:49,323 --> 00:41:57,326 Going all the way back to the 1930s, running right through for 70 years, there's a collection of trace evidence that is astounding. 464 00:41:57,326 --> 00:42:08,329 The problem is it's absolutely proving without a shadow of a doubt that that trace evidence is causally connected to the high strangeness that people experience. 465 00:42:09,329 --> 00:42:16,331 I think the wall between what we have now and where we want to be for absolute proof is tissue paper thin. 466 00:42:17,331 --> 00:42:20,332 We must keep going the answers on the other side of that wall. 467 00:42:20,332 --> 00:42:24,333 We've investigated Bucks County and heard amazing testimony. 468 00:42:25,333 --> 00:42:29,334 And we corroborated the stories of eyewitnesses to an amazing craft. 469 00:42:30,334 --> 00:42:39,337 Although we had no idea what to think of these sparkles that Denise Murder described, I think we've shown with a preponderance of evidence what these UFOs are up to. 470 00:42:40,337 --> 00:42:49,339 After hearing the cases in Poland of this vitrified soil possibly connected to these unidentified holes, we think they might be testing us. 471 00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:52,340 But for what reason? We don't know. 472 00:42:53,341 --> 00:43:02,343 Then we hear the story of Bob White and actually hold the object in our hands and we read the reports from top level institutions that can identify it. 473 00:43:02,343 --> 00:43:12,346 It's fantastic and as time passes, further scientific testing may one day prove that it's of extraterrestrial origin. 474 00:43:13,346 --> 00:43:21,348 I'm not alone in thinking that trace evidence may be the key to discovering what's behind these UFOs. 475 00:43:22,348 --> 00:43:28,350 It's just a matter of time before we discover that smoking gun that will blow this secret wide open. 476 00:43:29,350 --> 00:43:30,350 Let's go. 477 00:43:33,351 --> 00:43:39,353 We just received a phone call from David Lam. 478 00:43:40,353 --> 00:43:50,356 After conducting additional scientific testing, he now theorizes that Bob White's object is a quasi crystal of a very complex structure. 479 00:43:51,356 --> 00:43:55,357 This type of structure is considered to be the cutting edge of nanotechnology. 480 00:43:56,357 --> 00:44:03,359 It didn't exist in 1985 and even today it's in its early stages of development. 481 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:19,364 I believe as science and technology progress, it will one day be possible to properly identify the nature of Bob White's object and prove once and for all its extraterrestrial.